I frequent another fishing site with a lot of good sticks who share their knowledge with members. Some info and a question about BCB was put on the site. I told a member I would call Rick Pierce today for an answer. A few minutes later Rick was on the forum to answer the question. I have only seen the top guy of a boat company get on a fishing forum and respond to a member a few times. Each time it was BCB. Rick generates a lot of good will by doing this. The forum members have heard how responsive BassCat is to owners and got to read it for themselves. People often complain about how slow their boat builder is to respond. Never see a complaint about BCB. Guys, I have been on Outkast very little. My health has been iffy and I turned off my cell phone last spring. I got tired of answering questions about my health. I'm ok except I can barely move with a walker. I still get my Puma out several times a year but let a friend drive and have the front deck. My back is a wreck from a surgery and the nerves damaged by Agent Orange. I wish you all well.